First, the reason I started taking this product I had severe pain in my right shoulder infrequently, one day no pain next day pain, next 3 or 4 days no pain then maybe 5 days with pain. Anyone who suffers joint pain will understand this. On the 22nd November I started taking Spoonful Botanical 1 spoonful every morning no pain. Each day I’m waiting for it to return so far so good. I’m 68 years old with a medical background, retired now. I’ll keep you updated